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    • optimalwebinc
      optimalwebinc last edited by

      We do a lot of local SEO, and we're wondering if it's better to target "keyword location" or "location keyword"?

      Does it affect ranking and keyword difficulty if we're trying to rank for "plumbing appleton" or "appleton plumbing"?

      Any insight would be great.

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      • ORob
        ORob @optimalwebinc last edited by

        It will vary per niche and geography, so in general no I cannot say.

        With some phrases, the industry, and language people use will affect the volume. I would say find a set of local variations that you can rank for (perhaps a bit longer tailed) and compare them... but either way optimizing for both can provide good value.

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        • optimalwebinc
          optimalwebinc @ORob last edited by

          Thanks for the insight!

          Do you both know, on average, how much it matters, when it matters and how extensive should the ordering get?

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          • ORob
            ORob last edited by

            Target both.

            In most cases like this, you'll find that people search in both ways. Google used to find them synonymous in a way and provide the same results, but don't now. Difficulty will depend on competition and your domain authority. Watch both keywords and write your text in a natural varied direction that also includes an exact match or two of each.

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            • MattAntonino
              MattAntonino last edited by

              Using your own search (appleton plumbing) I did a comparison using ImportXML.

              It mattered at nearly every result level.

              See the attached image:

              appleton plumbing vs plumbing appleton using Googlescraper.

              appleton.jpg

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